JR: Anything else on the etheric weather you want to talk about? Your research is by no means over; you are working on this all the time. These small, innocuous looking devices are profoundly powerful.Now we've done this before, and I want to do it again. I want to do it primarily because I have seen referred to me, some rather...how can I phrase this, delicately? Well, I'm not. Ugly, hateful, vengeful, pinheaded, idiotic email about how Trevor is discriminating against some people who want to use this technology to stop "chemtrails" among other things. We're not going to mention any names. We've talked about this in the past, Trevor has clearly elucidated and articulated his feelings that nobody should mess with these machines, any of them, under any circumstances because the potential for doing damage is great. I don't care what name the machine is; Trevor has been very clear about it. Just because yours is brand "X" and somebody else's may be named "Joan's answer to the drought", I don't care what it's called; they're all doing the same thing. Some, Trevor, have tried to say, "No, no! Ours is different. It's not the same thing so quit saying that." Let's try, once and for all, to tell it clearly and without any...don't pull any punches. TJC: Well, there's no reason for anybody to get upset about anything I've said in the past. JR: I agree with you, and that's why it's been rather mysterious to me, the reaction. TJC: Everything I've said is based on experience. Probably nobody living has had more experience with this than myself. It's a foolish man that doesn't take advantage of his experience. JR: And it's even a more foolish man who refuses to pay attention to the experience of others who have gone on before him. TJC: Exactly, that is true. One of the things you have to be careful of in disseminating any real technical information about these devices is that they are simplicity itself, and they are continually getting simpler, and simpler, and smaller and smaller. Almost to the point where it's hard to believe that you can do anything with them. But, as a long time field and practical experimenter, I have found out that they work. In fact, I'm working on this now because the state of my life, and the conditions I live in now, it's very important to me to get the size down. I can't do what I used to do when I had a flying bridge on a ship to work with. JR: Right. TJC: So, it is just not something that should be in general hands, in my opinion. I could publish a description, very readily of everything I know, now that all the trial and error has been stripped away and digested and I've got something that operates sublimely. To put this in the hands of all hands, so to speak, is a gross error. I mean it's an ethical and moral error. Those who have not had this kind of experience are really amiss in egging or urging that wider use be made known of these things by indiscriminate people. JR: They're selling them online, Trevor. TJC: Decidedly unwise! JR: Anybody can get online and buy one of these outfits and start playing etheric weather games. TJC: Yes, I know, it's decidedly unwise. And sooner or later, you are going to attract, you know, Federal intervention. I'm sure of this. Because they're not entirely ignorant of these things, believe me. JR: OK, I hope that clears it up. No, there are none of them that are "different", they operate on the same principle out there, and Trevor's words are, I hope, very clear on this. He does not endorse, or espouse the general usage of these things. It's just not something the general public should have access to. I said that in the beginning before I even talked to Trevor, and caught all sorts of flack from people who were selling them. "You're going to ruin my business!" and blah, blah, blah. Well, there are more important things in life than earning a couple bucks. We're not going to stop or defeat "chemtrails" Trevor, are we, by pointing these up and dissipating some "chemclouds"? TJC: I don't think so. Not if the "chemtrails" are what I have been told they are. In other words, it's a Federal operation and you'd better leave it alone. JR: OK.
Trevor James Constable - #2 Etheric Weather Control January 30, 2003 JR: There is another issue of controversy around the topic of tonight. That has to do with Mr. and Mrs. America being able to buy, and assemble and build these devices and use them. There's a lot of talk about knocking down or breaking down, degrading chemtrails with them. The problem with this technology is quite clearly, one of not being able to control the end result of what you're doing with it. You may think you can look up there in the sky and say, "I'm going to take those clouds out." But it's much more than that Trevor, is it not? TJC: Yes, it is. It is, indeed. That is particularly true if you are working to the zenith, that is, straight up. Because the energy that you're dealing with goes in and out of the earth in a breathing function, that I previously described. JR: Like a tidal flow, back and forth. TJC: Right. As well as moving horizontally around the earth in at least two directions. And North/South streams as well, altogether some 32 of these energy streams that are involved in the total etheric economy of the earth. So this is what you are picking into with devices of a very simple character. And I can tell you that I have been working with this now for well over 30 years, and I still only know a little. So for all hands to be diving into this, especially working the zenith, which they're doing in the pursuit of these chemtrails, this is really replete with dangers, of different kinds, that we don't even begin to understand. JR: And again, are tied into certain data that you're not going to talk about tonight. TJC: Exactly. We had experience of this kind back in the early 70's when we first started out. We would have been then in the position of Mr. and Mrs. America wanting a shot at this are now. We found out to our stunned surprise that when we operated in the zenith in Southern California, we would cause deluges in Texas! And we did this often enough and at sufficient intervals to satisfy ourselves that this was a real connection and we'd better leave it alone. Which we did. We never used, we never did it anymore after that. So, that's right out of the fabric of my own personal experience that I say that. You know, even the crudest of these devices that are being advertised and sold are still a lot more powerful than what we had down there at that time. JR: OK. Alright, I think words to the wise are always in order, especially with technology like this, which has vast and almost incalculable potential. So, hopefully, you people out there who are clamoring to get yours and criticizing those who suggest maybe this technology is not for the public will think again about it. It's not a toy; we can't play God out there with these things. TJC: I'm often being accused of that. That's a very common accusation. You're "playing God", you know. JR: Sure. ... JR: The atmosphere...let me see if I can find it. This is from Lorie, thank you Lorie, this is very... it helps with perspective. "One thing," she says, "I have found over the last 4 years, is that the average person doesn't have an understanding of how close the atmosphere really is. It's like it's "way out there"... "somewhere"...to them. From the Earth to the top of the Troposphere is only 14 miles. 14 kilometers, 8.7 miles, we'll do this in miles. From the Earth to the top of the Stratosphere, which is where the Ozone layer is, is only 31 miles. From the Earth to the top of the Mesosphere, 56 miles. From the Earth to the Ionosphere, 248 miles. Which is just a little more," she says, " than the drive from Houston to Dallas." That's it. TJC: Yes. That's the way it is. JR: And now when we see these aircraft flying over leaving these horizon-to-horizon trails, which spread out and obscure the skies, we need to think about that. TJC: That's right. You know, they never have had, in business and industry any compunction about burdening the atmosphere, anymore than they have about burdening the oceans.
Trevor James Constable - #1 Secret Weather Control January 9, 2003 Dr. Reich had a large laboratory up in Maine and he was fascinated with the very concept of an energy filling all space. Because he had demonstrated its presence, experimentally, ... he identified it thermically, electroscopically, and he was also able to make it luminate in a vacuum. He paid a great deal of attention to the natural environment around him, particularly the lake beside which this laboratory was located. And on one occasion he was watching the undulations of the energy above the surface of the lake, which we normally dismiss by describing it as "heat waves." He found that when he missed his footing, and pushed the end of one of the pipes, one of the construction pipes, in this ditch that he was standing in, and he noticed that the energy above the lake bounced, and that it was bouncing in response to the movements of this pipe, one end of which was grounded into water. No, this is not a mirage. But normally, this is referred to in physics as "atmospheric boil". That's the way it's described. And he accidentally stepped on a pipe; part of the construction work that was going on, and the one end of this pipe was immersed in water. And he noticed there was a connection between submerging the pipe, and the motion of the energy across the surface of the lake, which was disturbed in an awkward fashion. ... it was pointed out across the lake. He accidentally hit one end of it, and missed his footing and he saw the energy jump, and of course he immediately went to repeat this experiment. And then of course, he was able to establish that it did indeed do this when he lined it up properly and got control of the process. And this led him to think that after all, you could access this energy in the atmosphere by using pipes in this fashion. It was an energy of unknown character which he had called "Orgone" to identify it with life, and particularly with the orgasm, and it was through the study of the orgasm, the very first study that was ever made, the very first scientific study that was ever made of the function of the orgasm, that he uncovered this energy, this force, and that's why he gave it the name Orgone to make that identification. The energy itself is responsible for the undulations that you see. And I've actually proved this out myself in numerous instances, including out on the snow where there isn't any heat, and so forth. I have seen this energy move, this undulation in the atmosphere, and it is quite definitely running from West to East in the Northern Hemisphere. It is directional in that sense. And you know it's beyond argument as far as I'm concerned. You know, I've been working with it for thirty years or more. In Reich's case, he made this foundational discovery and made the connection between a pipe grounded in the water and the energy that he had discovered through his own channels in his own time, and through his own experimental work, and this became the actual basis for what he came to call the "cloudbuster". Because he mounted a string of pipes, four, six, eight pipes on a special turntable type arrangement, grounded the ends into water, and then he found that when he aimed this particular device at a cloud, it would cause the cloud to dissipate. And this was repeatedly verified with time-lapse film, and everything else, I've done it myself dozens of times. I never found any real differences between the metals that were available, but the common practice was to use galvanized pipe rather than anything else. Copper also worked ok, but I was never able to establish any true superiority of one substance over another and that is, to this day, a wide-open field for some questioning young genius to explore. Six feet to twelve feet and sometimes some of the units, that I built early on, were telescoping pipes, you could make them any length that you wanted, and we used to tune them radionically. That's a method for tuning that type of energy.... you would use, basically, the pendulum method except that we had that on a numerical basis. Where you could control it better. It's a very subtle process. Normally the procedure that you would follow if you wanted to demonstrate the effect of this type operation is that you would pick out one particular cloud from amongst a clump of several similar clouds. You have perhaps four or five in a clump, the same size, on the same approximate bearing, and pick out that one cloud and just cause that to disappear while the others remained unchanged. I've got lots of time-lapse film showing that happening. It would take perhaps two or three minutes at the most for it to disappear. You can also do that without any tubes at all. You can dissipate a cloud using your beam of this force that comes out of the eye in the process of seeing and vision. We don't need the water grounding any more. We've found other methods to do that, that's part of the general progress that I've made with it in the years that I have been handling this work. Jeff asks, "The obvious question that has always plagued me is...let's assume that these cloudbusters work. Is this something that we want everybody to have in their garage and to pull out on Saturdays and play with the atmosphere and the weather?" Trevor responds: I would say, no. And to that end I have not made any technical information available to the general public on that account. And I strictly limit, you know, information that is capable of causing difficulties for other people. I'm very, very careful. ...one of the most serious problems that you encounter with this is that there are such complex remote affects connected with the use of these devices. For example, when we were working early on, back in the early 70's with this equipment, using very large batteries of tubes in an irrigation ditch on the desert, we were affecting the weather over eight or nine states without any trouble at all. That was happening, and you could relate what you were doing to what the consequences were. For example you could pull the circumpolar vortex that goes around the Canadian border, you could pull that all the way down to the interior of California and it would come down in a gigantic dip as long as you had that piece of equipment in operation. There are published articles on this by experts you know, expressing astonishment that this particular distortion in the flow had occurred at the time that we were doing this. We also found that there were extreme distance effects linking southern California with Texas, for example. This is back in the early 70's when we were doing this. Just finding our feet and our way with this, and that convinced us. The deluges that used to ensue in Texas, we better not be doing this anymore. We advised the government about this, but they took no notice. Let's not succumb to the situation of today where people are taking these basic devices that Wilhelm Reich devised and whose construction has been published, and they're shooting them up to get rid of these chemtrails. Well, you know the energy that goes around the earth is in constant motion, its moving faster than the earth in a gigantic envelope and while you may get rid of the chemtrail that you see above you, you don't know that that is not going to have an effect within 24 or 36 hours over in Africa somewhere. ...with the passage of time you're interacting also with lots of other nefarious things that are being done by the conventional scientific people where there is a conflict with this type of energy and it's just not something that you want to be going into on a random basis without a great deal of study. The particles (in a chemtrail) are disbursed... what causes it to coheir expands, this is a normal function that you see when a cloud is dissipated. That the binding force in the cloud is removed by the action of the cloudbuster whether you visualize it as a beam of energy emitted by the cloudbuster or a beam of energy going to the cloudbuster, the bonding of the material involved is removed and then therefore it ceases to exist in that form. Its artificial anyway for barium to maintain itself in a cloud, it would dissipate anyway over a period of time. So it is an elastic force and I have established that beyond any question at all. I use it in an airborne version of this type of work, now, on a strictly local basis for engineering rain locally and there isn't any question whatever that the force is subtly elastic. What you can do is cause the belt of energy that runs around the earth from East to the West in the Tropics, and from West to East in the temperate zones, you can cause that energy flow to back up locally and this is something that you can see because when you back it up, enormous amounts of moisture are creeped to the back up point and this has been... I have done this myself personally, literally thousands of times. There is no doubt about the fact that you can do it. When you stop them, the potential rises, where you stop it. Just like if you put a hose into a stream of water coming down a gutter, it builds up where you point the hose and then, you know, if you suddenly move the hose away, you get a rush of water down the gutter, that's how you do it on a extremely subtle basis in the atmosphere. That's the basis of commercial rain engineering at the present time. In the airborne mode. I wouldn't try and get rid of them (chemtrails) with cloudbusters, that's for sure. I think the only approach that is valid or useful is to try and extort from the government an explanation of what it is they are trying to do so that you at least know that. The blind approach to dissipate them with, particularly with cloudbusters that work straight up which have an especially deadly effect in terms on what comes down when you, after you push upwards. But not where you are, and not where you're looking, it's because the energy flow moves from West to East in the Northern Hemisphere It's going to come down to the earth, several thousand miles further over. Because the energy never stops moving. It's an environmental problem and you know, the more you learn about the role of this energy in the overall tapestry of life, the more cautious you are about bringing it into general release as a technological apparatus. That is a very serious aspect of it. |